[PHOTOS] Dream Concert 2008
The most significant issue on the Dream Concert 2008, which has already been reported in the forum, was the “Silent Treatment” of all the present fan clubs towards SNSD members and fans! For the first time ever in the history of KPOP (as far as we know) all the present fanclubs in the concert boycotted a single group: Girls Generation (SNSD)!
During the SNSD performance, other fanclubs remained silent and turned off their light sticks .. this only left the SNSD fanclub cheering for their group, making SNSD’s official color pink as the only visible color in the stands!
The reasons ???
Tiffany, the one who is hated the most in the group…
The one who doesn’t stand a chance to NOT disrespect her seniors in the name of being raised in the U.S. and unfamiliar with the Korean culture? The one who puts down her own group by messing up the dance moves intentionally to grab attention to herself or make fun of respectful singers only to embarrasses the whole entire group in public? ( Shinhwa, Epik High, Super Junior, DBSK, SS501, Big Bang, etc.) Idiot Tiffany said Shinhwa’s Junjin voice are similar to goat (what the hell ?!?), the other member (I forget), refuse to wear a wig for their MV just because that wig was worn by SJ’s Shindong. They also stated that SNSD will always perform as 9 members, with no sub-groups like Super Junior (this statement makes Eeteuk & Heechul angry).
Because this is the girl who couldn’t even stop seeking for attention even on the red carpet before the concert that day! appearing in the shortest skirt and making a ridiculous pose, trying to stand out, making you speechless in return!
But NO! It’s not! That is not the ONLY reason!
Some believe some of the reasons might lie in the unfair marketing plans of SNSD by SM and such. This is not the only reason but prepares you for what we are going to present you later!
——————————————————————————–The dream concert happenings fell into a cycle of things in such a short time, it started off as sheer amusement of the boycotting and silencing of fans, I couldn’t help but laugh …Then I saw what SNSD fans did to the Super Junior banner!
During the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) some number of SNSD fanboys ran toward the Super Junior Banners and ripped them apart, right in front of the ELF and SuperJunior on stage!
I guess the fans retaliated because they didn’t want to take things lying down, since their mostly boys it sorta makes sense, although i must add that real men know when to admit defeat and take things on the chin. Yes, they admittedly dampened the celebrations, cos I do really love suju for their passion, for their personalities, dudes entertain me and i like em.
That wasn’t enough I had to go and read the comments on the soompi thread (sometimes i hate soompi for the idiots there) and got bloody pissed off.
This was done because of SNSD, why? Because these girls ARE rookies, they have NO respect for their sunbaes (seniors) they just jump around like their the popular girls in high school. And seriously, does the movie “mean Girls” not pop up when you think of a reality show in their dorms?
There are plenty of reasons WHY fans are so pissed off, because believe it or not idiot soshi fans your so called STARS are riding on their seniors coat-tails of success, where some have worked hard, they have gained without effort. Where some have spent endless hours perfecting routines, perfecting songs, they get number 1 by kissing lollipops. Anything SNSD have “gained” is because of who paved the way ahead of them, and its not like their walking their path, no, their traipsing around all bouncy showing their panties to the world. How are we supposed to respect them, want them to succeed, how can self-respecting fans clap and cheer for them knowing that they’ve been born in to the world of showbiz with silver spoons and bought awards??? its sickening.
Cassiopeias are pissed off for more reasons but they’re mostly pissed due to the fact that most of the attention they are getting is by them associating themselves with the boys, by saying they trained with them, they’re friends, by appearing in Commercials with them, by making them look close and happy. Are they really that close?? my money is on no, actually I take that back, my money is on HELL NO. The Dbsg boys trained immensely hard for years to get where they are, they’re overworked, sleep deprived and are still passionate about what they do. They were taken at the height of their fame and thrown in japan where they became nobodies. They gained so much humility, respect for themselves and fans, experience and wisdom some stars get after decades of work. They built themselves up again even through such hardships and extreme homesickness. Its not difficult to respect them. They’re personalities alone are enough to get them far, but their hard work, passion, talent and perseverance can only make them go farther. Yet, SNSD with no said talent, not much passion, no personality get popular just by being under the same label, training and being put in scandals with them. Piss take, dontchathink?
ELF are angry because of almost the same thing. They have suffered for a long time because of the sub group business, SM doesn’t take them seriously and SNSD instead of getting their own gigs, feed off of their oppas. SUJU took a while to catch on and be seen as such good MCs, DJs and guests, they had to be recognized and accepted in the industry to be where they are. But what happens with SNSD, they just put them in the boiling pot with them, I swear when SNSD came out, i was like what the hell is going on, is SM putting in a buy one group get one free offer on Suju and SNSD??? FAVORITISM IS ONE OF THE LARGEST ISSUES.
also, boybands like SS501 feel the pain of cassi and elf, SS501 had gone through so much only to stay in the industry, a place that you can only make it if you are from SM, JYP or YG~ ok, they can argue but as i said in another post, die hard fans feel for each other, because they know how hard it is to break in to the business for their stars, the difficulty they had to face, the criticism from the public and th harsher criticism from themselves. SO when Tiffany claimed she liked the leader of ss501 before debut, it was almost like, ITS NOT BAD ENOUGH YOUR MOOCHING OFF THE SM BOYS NOW YOU WANT DSP.
Is it so hard to work your ass off to be recognized for your talent, unless of course you don’t have one, then you have to milk other artists on your label and others. they take advantage of other peoples popularity or popular news, Yoona saying Andy was her ideal man when all eyes were on Solbi and Andy as a couple??
Good god realize this, this isn’t just a punch in The Face to your noonas you crazy fanthugs, its a personal insult to the artists and the fans that they got everything from doing and having nothing. I will never respect SNSD unless they spend years working hard in the industry proving their talented, their professional and well-intentioned. And i can rest assured it wont happen, because fame is their only driving power and they will never stop being those stereotyped high school giggly girls that you want to avoid.
Also, SM needs to take note that talent is something a group needs to gain popularity, not just a pair of unseemly legs.
There are many behind the scene issues of happened at the night of the concert that never got the light of the day through the media coverage! In this post we are trying to bring out points to make you familiar with the reason behind the act as much as possible also a short recap of what went on at the event!
The Dream Concert held on June 7 was delayed for 20 minutes because there were too many fans trying to get in at once.
On this day, there were no security guards and concert organizers to be seen in the stands to ensure the safety and cooperation of fans. There was only supposed to be a crowd of 35,000 concert goers, but 50,000 fans showed up trying to get in. Many were buying expensive tickets that went for $500 or more. This so called ‘Dream Concert’ was set for disaster.
Problems arose when a stadium that only fits 35,000 people tried to accommodate 50,000 instead and fans started fighting for good seats. This was particularly the case when SUJU fans and SNSD fans started pushing and shoving, using violence to get seats – turning the ‘dream’ concert into a nightmare. You can obviously see in the pictures that fans are being pushed off the railings to fall.
However, the very first reports we read on the actual fight between the fanclubs is actually from days before the concert! where SNSD fans been fighting with other fanclubs on the concert message boards! It’s reports that SNSD fans were very rude to the other Fanclubs online and even went as far as telling them to boycott SNSD beforehand because they said SNSD doesn’t need anyone’s support. This may explain the fact when they even initiated the fight during the SuperJunior performance (Before SNSD performance) and some SNSD fanboys ran toward the SuperJunior Banners are ripped off the SUJU banners right in front of the ELF!
and what SNSD fans think about it? Here is one …
June 8, 2008 at 10:40 am
when I saw that video of ELF crying like some animals about to be slaughtered I don’t feel a sh*t for them (I laughed actually). you know why?? because those are the same FC that harassed and in the end caused a girl to commit suicide because of a trivial matter! that should make them cry, not their freaking banners being torn!! Cassiopean are the same! these 2 FC bring bad name to Korean music fans!”
Even thought the “Silence Treatment” was planned a few days ahead …
we even heard the rumors about it! But SNSD fans kept on adding oil to the fire!
There is also news coming that after the “Silence Treatment” SNSD fans left the stadium when SUJU and DBSK were performing (this was confirmed by many fan accounts … it not a rumour!) only to disturb the other fanclub members. There are many reports of SNSD fanboys threats and physical attacks, stabbing by knife and even rape by to female members of other fanclub!
Fan account: I went with a friend but we sat separately. I’m a Triple but she’s a Cassie. Suddenly I get a call from my friend who was crying and telling me that she was scared. While she was going to the restroom, she saw a Cassie who was being beaten up by boys holding pink balloons…and she told me it was on the level of gang violence. Among the Triples there was also news of being beaten by Soshi fans!
The situation was so frightening that Security asked everyone to walk in pairs!
According to fan accounts, other fan lclub members were beaten up by SNSD fanboys – some had their hair ripped out, raped, stabbed with a knife and had broken legs, and were taken to the hospital.
The news that is being reported now is very minor on these events and they are purposely leaving out these isolated incidents.
Here is a pic of a SNSD fan who had a knife with him. It was one of those swiss knives
The deal was that this person was waving around the knife but he took it out of his pocket and was constantly sharpening his knife in front of alarmed Cassie fans he also threatened them to treat them while on the way home!
One girl broke her leg and went to the hospital and told her that she needs crutches for 4 weeks! just because someone pushed her . But luckily, a fellow ELF helped her get out of the stadium as she was limping!
Translation to the picture of the girl with a broken leg:
“I wasn’t going to post this picture up.
But the Soshi boy-fans…hahahaha… said there was no evidence
I’m wearing crutches..hahahaha…how about this
If you say that I’m still lying, I might as well put up my medical examination
You guys should really keep you integrity…hahahahaha
If I had the heart, I’d like to post my phone number and talk with you via video?
But my cell phone is currently messed up”
After the concert the one decent fan wrote to SNSD fans:
“I’m a guy just as you, bastards”
I’m a guy just as you bastards –
I’m a guy just as you bastards –
I’m a Soshi fan also; however you bastards…
How can you hit, kick, rape and stab girls with a knife –
You guys are totally Soshi Pshychos
Not only the fans but the artists weren’t safe from SNSD fansboys!
There are many reports that SNSD fanboys threatened ELF to rape Kang In and Sung Min from Super Junior! And this is when you have Sung Min writing to the ELF after the concert asking them to support SNSD from now on!
SUNGMIN’s MESSAGE TO E.L.F. translation by ak6c @ soshified
o the most lovable angels in the world that made SuJu shine at the Dream Concert…
Did you go back home safely?
I’m not so sure exactly what time it ended because I was too tired…
I hope you didn’t have to spend the night at a jjimjil room (steam room) or some place that’s not your home because it ended too late…
Yesterday, all I saw was our blue river everywhere~ did you know? hehehe
The top right… middle left… back of the stage… even at the side where you can’t see the stage…
It’s sad that not all the ELF fans could see the stage together
I hope we can get seats with a better view next time.. hehe
How’s ‘Cook King’? Do you like it?
I like it.. keke the dance is fun too
Ah… you know our SNSD girls…
I heard you didn’t cheer for them? ^^;; I see our ELF is mad?
We’re one!!! kekeke I wanted to yell that out too~
But we showed to you yesterday that we were one! ke
Super Junior KRY+T+M+HAPPY = 1
I think the SNSD girls understand now too~
that they have to listen to their SuJu sunbae’s well!
Weren’t they punished enough till yesterday~?
So please cheer for our SNSD girls from now a lot~
Because we’re SMTOWN!
SNSD is also a part of our SM Family like E__~
It’s okay to dispute for a little…
but if you goes on without any resolvement, the family itself can be destroyed T_T
So cheer them on from now on ^^
I think it’s for SuJu as well!
If I think of it further ahead, I’d like to ask you to cheer on for all the singers…
Actually because our E__ is very very nice, I saw our E__ cheering the other artists a lot as well.
Sometimes even louder than us!! kekeke
Just joking. But cheer them on to a point where SuJu can feel a little jealous and want to work harder! ^^ ke
Let’s show them that we’re the best!! Making us feel thoughts like this as we go on the stage.. ^^
But if it goes on for too long I’ll quit!!
I wonder if I’ll get scolded? ^^;;
But still… even when I was feeling sick yesterday… it was our SNSD girls that took care of me and worried for me^^
If SNSD fans rip off the banners of SUJU in front of ELF and SUJU eyes
if they stab fans to death right in front of their eyes and send them to hospital!
They sure can rape Suju’s members as well! Just saying!
and while SuperJunior members are going out of their way messaging their fans to support SNSD. The mighty members of SNSD didn’t even care about the way their fans were acting!
The message from Stupid SooYoung says:
The cheers from the fans was fabulous! You guys are the best ❤
The way they have disrespected their seniors in the past, no wonder they also cheer up on all the stuff their fans did to the other fanclubs!
What Korean Media did instead?
Well SBS edited the whole performance .. made it sound like nothing really went wrong!
They shamelessly added ELF cheering parts to the SNSD performance video to make it sound as if nothing was out of the ordinary!
SNSD members were said that cried after they performed. There are reports that Lee Teuk (SuperJunior’s leader) also cried after the Suju performance because some SNSD fans ripped the fan-made Super Junior banner while they were singing, right in front of their eyes!
Yet, it is true that SNSD were booed off the stage!
It is also true that many fanclubs cheered for Wonder Girls when SNSD was performing, which moved a lot of WonderFuls (WonderGirls fanclub)
But SBS (If you also look at the WonderGirls performance) edited the audience part as if the whole stadium was dark during their performance as well! It’s true that DBSK fans kept their red lights on only when DBSK performed .. but the exaggeration of the edited versions are beyond one’s comprehension!
Dream Concert Part 2: Wrong doings of SNSD fan club
1. Walking around with a knife, threatening Cassies and ELFs
Why in the world would anyone bring a knife to a concert if he/she didn’t have the purpose to stab someone with it? SNSD fans are a bunch of low-life thugs.
2. After SNSD’s performance, SNSD fans left the stadium in a group
SNSD was rude enough to leave the stadium after the performance of SNSD, deliberately missing out in the performances of DBSK and SUJU. There are many fan accounts that prove unlike what they claim they never cheered for other artists either!
3. ELF (SUJU fan club) attack/battery
The girl in the wheelchair with a broken leg is just one example of SNSD boy fans beating up ELFs. There are currently reports of 3 ELFs who had to be taken to the emergency room.
4. ELF sexual molestation
Actual fan account:
“A friend of mine was taking a long time to comeback from the restroom, so I called her. She picked up the phone and told me that she was in a certain row, naked and crying. She was going to the restroom when a couple guys came up from behind and ripped her clothes and touched her body and took pictures and then left. They looked like high school boys…she says she doesn’t remember anything but that the boys were holding pink balloons.”
5. Cassieopeia (DBSK fan club) attack/battery:
Cassie fan account, personally from the victim:
“I was constantly kicked in the head and was hit by balloons by SNSD fans. I got fed up and told them off “Stop it you bastards”. From that point on they started hitting my head with their fists. I remember exactly, there wasn’t just one person, but 5 or 10 that came to my seat and started beating me. SNSD fan girls were just looking at the scene and giggling….while some fans were so alarmed that they were talking of calling the police. I couldn’t defend myself and just patiently hoped that they would stop. When they left, I went over to the SUJU side to ask my friend for help. She took me to the hospital. When I awoke the next day at 2 in the afternoon, I found myself in a hospital bed with my mother humped over my bed, holding my hand tightly. I have bandages around my head…it seems like my head was ripped open.”
6. Tearing down SUJU and DBSK’s banner
Fans saw SNSD fans ripping the banners for SUJU and DBSK, enraging many fans. And making many more cry!
7. SNSD fans used words that a human should not say to incite other fans
[Warning: This is disturbing!]
SNSD fans were cussing out other groups and saying the following:
“We can kick their stomachs so that they can’t have babies”
“We can just rape the girls”
“Those crazy bastards, if they’re going to do it, they should do it right”
“They’re screaming like crazy bitches”
8. SNSD fans cussed out other singers while they were performing
SNSD fans shouted “bastard”, “bitches”, and “Shut up” when other artists came onto stage. This doesn’t compare to the 10 minute “silent treatment” that SNSD received.
9. Attack/Battery of ELF/ Cassie/ and Triple fan clubs
So far, ELF has reported 3 members who were taken to the hospital; Cassies have 2; while Triples have many injured members.
We will continue to update readers of any incidents that are reported …
But here’s Soyboy’s opinion:
SNSD fans WAKE UP! All of you and SNSD don’t deserve to be in Korea’s music industry. What the hell is this? How could this happen between fanclubs of the same company? You’re finally bringing everyone down. SNSD and their fans are a pretentious bunch of garbage that don’t belong in the spotlight. Even in sports, if a team is playing ugly, against the rules, or just plain being rude, they’re going to get kicked off the field. SNSD and their fans are displaying bad sportsmanship in a competitive arena. It doesn’t matter how talented they are… if they are a bad sport, they need to leave quickly. The Dream concert was supposed to give hope and dreams for young kids just as its name suggests; but instead, it has caused more hurt and pain for many young kids. SNSD and their fans need to APOLOGIZE and BEG FOR THEIR FORGIVENESS!
But in return this is what they (SNSD FANS) will respond you!
QUOTE ((YoonA)TaengSica @ Jun 8 2008, 11:24 AM)
This motherufcking cocksucking peice of shiitfuuckingdickface I dont give motherfuuckingshiit if i get banned on soompi but that just cut it coockfuucking patheticass little piece ofshiit you should go fuucking die. Burn in motehrfuucking hell dickfuuck cocksucking piece of shiitfuuck dont say fuucking shiit if your not even fuucking sure about what you say worhtless fuucking shiitface koreans dont hate snsd assfuuckin dumbass, you dont knwo fuuckingshiit about love do you pinkberry cuz your PROBABLY fat and ugly and retarded. they dont deserve that shiit you fuucking cockface they tried their best on stage and its their first fuucking time in DC. who said you had to love snsd if you dont like them fuucking shiit face, its just respectful to atleat fuucking clap but booing? wat the fuuck? fuucking inhuman cumfuucking shiit heads like you otta go fuucking get killed. they dont need to love every artist, we never said they needed to fuuckface now get the fuuck out and dont ever fuuckign come back u fuucking dipshiit loser, and divine justice? waat the fuuck? are you fuucking 8? fuucking make no fuucking sense
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Translation credits to estellia @SoompiHello. I’m a Cassiopeian who went to DC yesterday.
I arrived too late yesterday so I had to sit in the 1st floor instead of the 3rd floor. At that time, Cassiopeia was doing their card section ‘HI TVXQ ❤‘. Then at that time there were two guys behind me who said “If they’re going to be crazy b****** then they should at least do it right.” They’re making a lot of noise’ etc. They made some harsh comments. We didn’t know who they were but just thought that they had no notion and we waited till the performances started.
After the performances started and during Bae Chi Gi‘s performance a lot of fans went to the VIP section the two guys were trying to get there too but when we told them not to, they just sat in the seats infront of us because of the people speaking about manners and such the performances were delayed and it came all the way to Epik High‘s performance. We cheered at the top of our voices.
Then next was SNSD‘s performances Cass and ELF on the 3rd floor, Triple on the 2nd floor, Wonderfuls on the 1st floor along with the majority of the other artists’ fans stayed quiet for sometime and then shouted wonderful. Then my friend suddenly called me and said “Hey, one of the guys sitting in front of you took out a knife.” I was shocked and looked at the guy. It was really a knife. Just that he looked like a student but had a knife gave me goosebumps. He didn’t brandish it but he held it so that the Cass around him could see it and he sharpened the knife on the railing and made it so that we could see it. But where I sat was a large portion of the DBSK banner. I thought ‘they wouldn’t rip the banners that fans put together with lots of donations’ positively.
Then suddenly the guy dropped the knife blade. I thought ‘ah he finally came to’ and cheered really hard for SuJu. SuJu finished their performances and DBSK‘s started. But then the two guys left. At the same time I had a feeling of relief thinking ‘They must be going home’, I was worried because there was a possibility that they had another knife. DBSK‘s performance ended successfully and the event ended successfully as well.
The fans around us left and we stayed behind and searched for the dropped knife just incase. But it wasn’t there. My friend said “He first went down to retrieve the knife.” Then the 3rd floor was singing ‘Park YooChun was born to receive love’ so we sang along. I completely forgot about it…
I was on my way home when I got a text from my dongsaeng. It said “Unni, they said somebody from ELF got stabbed with a knife.” We remembered right then. The guys who were in front of us with the knife. We were shocked and confused. I’m not sure if the guy who was sitting in front of me was the person who stabbed the ELF member. But I had thought ‘maybe just in-case’ so I took pictures of the guy holding the knife with my cell.
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